#38 JayBlack. Who is a better god like figure?Both Beyonders wins. lmao Also classic Marvel supporters. Lucifer does not stand a chance here. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is probably here as well. Belligerents: Composite Time Lords from Doctor Who and the Pre-retcon Beyonder from Marvel Comics. Hajun via feats and implied power. You are confusing full power with pre retcon. ago. CC Goku is outerversal while in Uni Blue, meanwhile Pre retcon Beyonder as far as i know is high outer and has way better feats, apart from being part of a much larger cosmology. Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs Oblivion. Round 2: Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs The Darkest Knight Round 3: Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs Cosmic Armor Superman Round 4: Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs The Empty Hand Round 5: Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs all of them This thread is archived New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast comments sorted. Reason? Preretcon beyonder can stand against TOAA and LT. Round 4: All-Mighty vs The three of them. And yeah he stomps. Post-retcon Beyonder loses hands-down. The Beyonder (Pre-Retcon)should be Tier 0. Pre retcon Beyonder & MM > Lucifer Morningstar > The Endless. British_Tea_Company • 7 yr. Honestly assuming it’s pre-retcon Beyonder and MM then they stomp the dc fodder hard. Both strike an ambiguous pose when it comes to creating a universe. And the SCP verse is on par with the Dark Tower when it comes to sheer size and scale. So logically the Beyonder at full power can defeat Galactus at full power. This is the biggest mismatch. SCP-682 (SCP Foundation) vs Beyonder (Pre Retcon) Fight ends only in Death. Tdk banished the Great Darkness from Barbatos, and took over the Dark multiverse, Barbatos is just a small avatar of the Great Darkness. 14 years ago. I mean it would be awesome to see Beyonder whip his ass with ease but I mean, poor Anti-Monitor, he was an evil bastard but he did not deserve this. Mxy is done. 0. 8. Aetherius is a larger infinity than Oblivio and encompasses its entirety, existing as a static realm of pure Anuic Light where all things exist in pure, timeless harmony. Followers. Wiki Points. This pre retcon Beyonder. However personally i believe the Overvoid, which is the source of Cosmic Armour Supermans power, is superior to the Beyonder Realm. The Beyonder at his full power pre-retcon is omnipotent. However, he can scale to characters with immeasurable speed via statements. Pretty sure it wasnt stated to end so. I don't think that PR Beyonder would actually notice him. PR Beyonder is a casual multiverse buster. Don't think God Thing's H4X compares. . Manhattan's league. Reviews: 0. Word Lords, the Celestis, Faction Paradox, etc. Team 2 = Fusion mode. After that he was retconned to a far less powerful cosmic cube. Thanks!!!!!In fact, Pre-Retcon Beyonder had a completely different origin than being a child unit. Iirc only TOAA was more powerful than the Beyonder. Aka via ap advantage Oblivion alone has Infinite Spatial Dimensions and is described as a realm which contains all Change and Variation within it. Been done here on the vine. [deleted] • 8 yr. GEB=Anti Pressence. R2: God stomps. He was the TOAA of his own multiverse. 3 years ago. Most being have failed, and only two holds the hope of all creation. However, PR Beyonder is an extremely powerful reality warper and is simply way out of Dr. The All-Mighty (SCP) vs TOAA, Pre-Retcon Beyonder, and Oblivion (Marvel) All of them at their strongest. With the tumor, Hajun has an Taiyoku level of Infinity . Round 5: All-Mighty vs The entire Marvel verse. Pre-retcon beyonder 1 on 1 Round 2: CAS VS PR Beyonder with Living Tribunal Round 3: CAS and Myx vs PR Beyonder and Living Tribunal 4 years ago #2. His accident poked a pinhole into the universe of a child Beyonder, and the energy from that universe empowered him. Post-Retcon Beyonder: A cosmic cube being that had split in half, the other side being Molecule Man. I can only speak of Pre-Retcon Beyonder since that is who I am familiar with, but pre-Retcon Beyonder was explicitly a being outside of the Marvel totality. Bonus Round: Pre-Retcon Molecule Man should also stomp IG Thanos. Pre Retcon Beyonder. . Forum Posts. It is capable of becoming a Multiversal threat, but it's vastly weaker than any of the Apollyon-Class SCPs. Basically all Dragonball characters ever created in their most powerful form fight PR BEYONDER all at the same time. There are other impressive feats to show, but they are all after the retcon. Beyonder preretcon upgrade. @dami24434: cosmology expansion. CsmicRanker1314 1. The value of your argument reached the negatives the moment you put fodder Beyonder above anyone here. Fight takes place in current DC universe. He'd have as much chance as an ant against omnipotence. Battle for the title of 2nd strongest Marvel Character. 7. Team 1 = Two Grain Pre-Retcon Beyonder. Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs. 4 years ago #3. Because PR Beyonder mentioned how he wants her to return what’s rightfully his, which one of things I’m assuming that could be is a portion of his power he lent or something like that. so the Doomslayer stomps. Beyonder's best feat is defeating a multiverse level entity, the Living Tribunal, which was a big deal. Both are in character. #1. Like, guys, just focus on like a planetary thing or even a system wide thing. Wiki Points. #1. Beyonder even realized he was the Pre-Retcon one too lol Not to mention Beyonder detailing Doc Strange's win con over him, tailor made for Loki and proven when he and Sylvie enchanted Alioth, who. A few pages leter Beyonder comes back kills Doom and starts curb stomping everyone including wrecking the mutli verse and breaking apart countless realities That's what Pre Retcon Beyonder is A. As a result, for his experiment, he. They live here, and decided to fuck shit up. The Two fight in the beyond realm. Azrael and Time(Discworld) 4. They both basically live outside of the multiverses that they are part of. God’s best feat is him creating the concept of light with a single command, while Beyonder has crazy other things that are more impressive. no one can tell, if he was less powerful than TOAA or equal, PR Beyonder was stated by Stan lee to be omnipotent, but the meaning of omnipotent is debatable. Beyonder has way more hax, the Glory is literally non-sentient, and Beyonder has an extreme AP advantage, seeing as the Glory is only possibly baseline High 1-B, and Beyonder is well over 10,000,000 times more powerful than almost every High 1-B in Marvel. Pre-Ret MM having abstracts such as LT and Eternity beg him to fight Beyonder implies he's one incredibly powerful dude. First is the. #28 ovy7. At the time of the Secret Wars he was stated as being equal to the One Above All. Thanos wins this. But seeing hat The Pre Retcon Beyonder was basically on the Living Tribunal's level. Wiki Points. Basically beyonder is being of infinite dimensions when He limits himself, but as beyond realm he is a creature that goes. Imagion all he powers in the Marvel Multiverse (which is infinite), not just the Multiverse but also every being in it, and emptyness (which is also infinite) beyond it (blank pages) Even Stan Lee stated in an interview in the 80s, that Beyonder was supose to represent the power the writers had. As you can see in the marvel hierarchy the one above all is at the very top. Dr Manhattan is a very proficient matter-energy manipulator. BEYONDERSIn fact, Pre-Retcon Beyonder had a completely different origin than being a child unit. Originally posted by the DarkoneBefore they were retconned, Beyonder and Molecule Man we nearly omnipotent. Beyonder is canonically a "child unit" of the BeyonderS that were the antagonists of the 2015 series- and those things wiped out the entire marvel abstract tier including LT without breaking a sweat. Nope. pre retcon beyonder: can destroy an infinite-d multiverse and exists independently of it. He was even above and beyond the writing staff . The Beyonder realm might be a million times bigger than the entire Marvel Multiverse combined but in the end it's still part of the larger multiverse. Death only dealt with Dream so casually because of how the concepts they embody interact with each other. The thing is though, "Pre-Retcon Beyonder" is the Beyonder circa Secret Wars II, 1985. Sep 20, 2018. For now pre retcon beyonder has the advantage imo. The Beyonder, a young member of an ancient race known as the Beyonders, was made aware of the Marvel Universe due to an 'accident' orchestrated by the other Beyonders involving Owen Reece. Doomslayer can beat 69420 trillion Master Chiefs and has literally indestructible armor he stomps. #28 ovy7. Beyonder pre-retcon Beyonder > current beyonders races. He is the central antagonist of the Battleworld arc in Season 4: Secret Wars. Clearly neither is the GEB - but in the sense prior to the retcons he was a character whose will defined reality around him and he was infinitely more powerful than anyone else on. In Secret Wars 2, the Beyonder was above the real Living Tribunal (In the retcon, it was. Motivation: Both want to kill each other. Doctor strange opens one in front and back. CsmicRanker1314 1. Beyonder (Pre-Retcon Feats, Secret Wars and 1984 and pre-1984 Scaling only) Ivory Kings, First Firmament + Ultimate Ultimates. " Uhhh, yes it does. The Beyonder has been retconned. The Soruce(DC) 5. Summary. Kingant27. He. Trying to apply that to the Beyonder is meaningless, he may as well embody all of them considering his origin. " Uhhh, yes it does. He hailed from, and was one with the Beyond-Realm, a featureless dimension outside the entirety of the Multiverse, and upon descending into the physical reality he was shown to be immensely superior in. It's stated so multiple times throughout the comics. Pre-retcon Beyonder was significantly more powerful than the Living Tribunal. Numidium 2. A being who is millions of times stronger than the marvel Multiverse vs a being for whom the marvel. So they pretty much stomps the likes of Galactus, Mephisto and etc who are universal at most. ago. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright. Originally, the Marvel Comics' character known as The Beyonder, as portrayed during Jim Shooter's Secret Wars duology, as a nearly all-powerful entity. -Both at 1-A -I wonder which Beyonders are stronger now since the The Beyonders recently got upgraded into 1-A. Join this channel to get access to perks:Credits to THZCheck out YFV (@YFVillainYT). Beyonder explicitly said "everything you can dream about, I can do", and it is confirmed by few characters present there. vs. Dude’s absolutely broken. Does it matter by that logic Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) because he didnt resist doom taking his power thats a contradiction in your opinion about PR Beyonder. Eru Iluvatar is more like SCP 3812 but. The Beyonder was originally an organizer of a massive battle between many of the mainstream. Created by writer Jim Shooter and artist Mike Zeck, the. Beyonder - vs - Beyonder # 21 K. She surpasses him in raw power by far. And with this analogy, Alovenus/Ruphas can create L1A character A in fiction A, But can easily defeated By character B In fiction B. . But Pre-retcon Beyonder is just a cut above the rest in terms of these characters. Period. Mismatch. (Pre-Retcon)The Beyonder vs The entirety of DC (excluding The Presence and The Writer) Rules: -Both determine to win at any circumstances. He wins. 0. This is the biggest mismatch. "Now now thats not true. Even an Taiyoku level of One is easily Outerversal level. 1. Since the Chaos Gods have no way to kill him, he'll eventually win. PR Beyonder takes it 10/10. Followers. Pre-retcon Beyonder was significantly more powerful. than i understand from other blogs Pre-retcon Beyonder is High 1-A/ High Outerversal in beyond-realm. @The Mjolnir Wielder: Doubt it, Beyonder has a weak will and can easily be manipulated. Pre-Retcon beyonder could be said to be the "God before genesis" he was God before TOAA existed in the comics at that time, and when TOAA came into existence as an omnipotent character they had to greatly reduce the power of the Beyonder, from there they began to know him as "Post-retcon beyonder". Doom, when has anything even close to that happened to the Tribunal? My point is Marvel states he is the one thing/person/entity that. The living embodiment of The Beyond Realm, a reality outside of the Marvel multiverse, he utilizes his powers over reality, space, and time to observe the neverending battle between good and evil, serving as both an ally and enemy to Earth’s. Problem is pre retcon Beyonder is just. Victory conditions: for the beyonder it is to destroy the entire race of time lords, for the time lords it is killing or making the beyonder surrender. Pre retcon Beyonder seems omnipotent inside the marvel multiverse because its like comparing a dinosaur to a bunch of ants. Adviser (Vs)Pre- Retcon Beyonder would not be that much powerful if he came now. The entire Watcher. At that time, The Beyonder was more powerful than the Living Tribunal and thus everything else in the Marvel Universe. He is only nigh-omnipotent, nigh-omniescent, and nigh-omnipresent. Powers are basically the same thing. The beyonder is accordingy to comic book guys a 5th tier cosmic. 8 years ago. Thor Vs Justice League : Vs AVENGERS : 12 Cosmic Beings in Marvel :. If PR Beyonder is superior to TOAA then God Emperor. R3 - Inhuman/Mutant Beyonder faces the 5. The only thing the Beyonder wasn’t able to do was truly understand what it was like to not be the Beyonder. Follow 2882. 7 K. Pre-Retcon beyonder could be said to be the "God before genesis" he was God before TOAA existed in the comics at that time, and when TOAA came into existence as an omnipotent character they had to greatly reduce the power of the Beyonder, from there they began to know him as "Post-retcon beyonder". All reality was a dream created by Beyonder. SCP-682's adaptive powers are seriously NLF-prone. About Pre-retcon/Classic Beyonder. Prepare for. Thanos Hotu and Great Evil Beast 49%. Spite. Hence why people differentiate the. So there are 2 feats for HoTU that need to get debunked. Some stuff from DC like Lucifer Morningstar. She/Her. I don’t know anything about Anos Voldigoad, but Beyonder beats pretty much anyone so I’ll. He'd beat composite Superman, let alone this robot. #11. Pre-Retcon Beyonder has no physical form, no spiritual form, and or astral form but can take on these forms when he chooses and Beyonder was once Infinite Dimensional and even still his physical form. Beyonder can destroy the concept of death to the point that above Infinite-D beings like Molecule Man couldn't kill a freaking flower and can restore it while being power depleted with just a. Wiki Points. So, it is the power of pre-retcon Beyonder. That being said, I’m going to give this one to the pre-retcon Beyonder. The recent additions of the Heart of the Universe as an accepted Canon Thing, and the Pre-Retcon Beyonder's revisions were the first results of such result. While The Living Tribunal is rated 1-A (more than The Beyonder)and 616 Eternity or Multi-Eternity is rated High 1-B (same as The Beyonder). Protege is the embodiment of a "no-limits" fallacy though. If PR Beyonder is superior to TOAA then God Emperor. The thought of Beyonder defeating SCP 3812 because he was able to destroy a billion universes is laughable. BEYONDERS In fact, Pre-Retcon Beyonder had a completely different origin than being a child unit. According to that one guy Anos could do it,. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Pre- Retcon Beyonder would not be that much powerful if he came now. the retcon. Prior to being retconned totally out of power and relevance, the Beyonder was basically the most powerful being in all of Marvel comics, totally. Within the beyond realm, he's supposed to be omnipresent. Well pre-retcon beyonder was able to erase marvels death. He's just on a whole nother level from GEB. loveNwar. Regulator Thanos wins, both these characters are above LT in power scope, however the HOTU. so i think the only characters that can beat him are tier 0 characters like boundless. Pre recton beyonder is one of the most over wanked marvel characters . Has no equal or superior, Created Heaven’s (which could be a Universe) with a word and is just flat out stated to be omnipotent with. But i think they have more "battle feats" (killed LT, killed millions/billions/or much more than that, of celestials (since they killed all of then from all multiverse). "No other force or power in existence could. Not only this, due to scaling, Hajun has taken. Possibly the most powerful character in creation. Beyonder even realized he was the Pre-Retcon one too lol Not to mention Beyonder detailing Doc Strange's win con over him, tailor made for Loki and proven when he and Sylvie enchanted Alioth, who. Per Hank Pym the events of SW2. Pre Retcon Beyonder is more a match for things like SCP 239. The only thing Pre retcon beyonder has going for him against featherine is that he was described as "god" in the beyonder realm to possibly put him on her level. 4 years ago. First is the. R1: Lucifer wins Mid-difficulty R2: Pre-recton beyonders wins high difficulty. 7 K. Any of the Smash gods could do it, and so would the beings above. No, that was post-retcon Beyonder. PR Beyonder is probably the strongest comic character there is if you go by feats alone and not by hype. The omnipotent Beyonder is on a destructive rampage and has decided to destroy the entire Marvel omniverse. 3. He. He was the TOAA of his own multiverse, separate to that of the Marvel multiverse, before he came across the. R1: Pre-Retcon Beyonder Takes Low-Mid Difficulty. COIE Monitors cited as. 140. 5 years ago Galactic_1000Every single universe in the entirety of the Marvel multiverse combined is literally a drop in the ocean to Pre-Retcon Beyonder's power, The minotors exist in a dimension called "The Bleed", which is basically identical to Marvels "The Beyond". Jump Force Goku view all Shonen as fiction how will Pre Retcon Beyonder will win. No prep and no knowledge. the_doctor. Pre Retcon Beyonder vs Dr Doom. remember wanda during HOM rewrote/destroyed 98 percent of the multiverse. Kuuko273. Forum Posts. KuRuPT Thanosi. 0. But beyonder that isn’t pr gets absorbed. So, I looked at The Beyonder's (Pre-Retcon)profile and, found out that he is rated Tier High 1-B and likely, 1-A. Beyonder if what I hear of Gan/Crimson King is true (and. I really can't be asked to go. . @kingkronos said: @Pwok21 said:. Pre Retcon Beyonder is more insane than his diet coke race counterparts Hickman used(yes they predate Hickman as Kubik in that FF4 comic shows, I know). We can actually prove that Pre-Retcon Beyonder is fodder to Composite-DC. Well COIE Anti Monitor, as powerful as he may be, is actually a little out of his league here. Spectre is tapped into God so he has an unlimited amount of power at his disposal. Inbetweener. Pre Retcon Beyonder gets wrecked hard lol. This topic is locked from further discussion. In Lucifer DC Multiverse is not just infinite dimensional but also existing in multiple existence as seen in his conversation with Presence. #44 Edited By Debunker020202. @kingkronos said: @Pwok21 said:. He is his total opposite and equal in power. Then there is Inhuman/Mutant beyonder who had nothing to do with The beyonders. 2. Definitely Beyonder. Post-retcon is still strong, there’s no doubt about that, but he’s still much much weaker than his Pre-retcon counterpart:. High-End Composite Time Lords and High-End Interpretation Downstreamers 3. ) along with the Great Houses of Gallifrey (A. " lord marvel is said to be omnipotent and he can get smacked up. Pre Retcon Beyonder is far far beyond any of his other forms. Hit a Like And Subscribe To Help Out💵 “Wanna Donate/Support? 💵👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇💰PayPal💰. He’s stronger than the one above all who is pretty much god above god. Pre-retcon beyonder 1 on 1. Beyonder won't evenn make any difference more than the ant. Round 2 is just silly, because neither of those characters would be ANY help to Superman, much less to Beyonder. The only thing Pre retcon beyonder has going for him against featherine is that he was described as "god" in the beyonder realm to possibly put him on her level. I don't think that Pre-retcon Beyonder in pic but. 0. the_doctor. PR Beyonder curbstomps. Dream of the Endless unable to stop Barbatos, who like Mxyzptlk, will steamroll Beyonder and Molecule Man without even trying. Beyonder erases him from existence. Motivation: ROB Fight in ROBverse. show 3 replies . Fight takes place in an empty multiverse. No prep and no knowledge. The Beyonder (Pre-Retcon)should be Tier 0. 13 years agoWasn't Pre-Retcon Beyonder just a child unit of Beyonder race? He was shown that way in Deadpool's Secret Wars. Fighting place: Dr. Pre retcon beyonder was more of a plot device than a character lol. well omnipotent. faster. Both are in character. Reply. He was the TOAA of his own multiverse, separate to that of the Marvel multiverse, before he came across the. Forum Posts. Forums Battles Darkseid (True Form) vs Pre-Retcon Beyonder 121 results 1 2 3 #1 Soratoumiga 4 years ago #2 ProfessorRespect Beyonder. Seriously at his peak height, Pre Retcon Beyonder was. 1. Round 2: CAS VS PR Beyonder with Living Tribunal. This is a simple fight. Beyonder uses his prep to observe Doom preparing,. Lucifer could just tricked Beyonder like Molecule Man did to Beyonder. A Pre-Retcon Beyonder is beyond the Galaxy, beyond Dimensions, beyond the Multi Verse and should easily stomp the absolute shit out of whatever pseudo intellectual Neil Gaiman fake mystic mumbo. 2. The closest you get I think is Guenpool and she just has basic fourth wall. The Beyonder realm might be a million times bigger than the entire Marvel Multiverse combined but in the end it's still part of the larger multiverse. @slacker the hacker said: "@Mackeja said: "Pre-retcon spite. 0. Pre-Retcon Beyonder was also omnipotent "And another "slight" parameter. pre retcon molecule man vs. Its not like the writer of marvel has dominon only over character. Follow 1712. Pre-Retcon Beyonders was described to be like a child compared to the Beyonders we are seeing now. It took 3 of the Beyonders to take down the same LT. Beyonder scaled above all. At that time, The Beyonder was more powerful than the Living Tribunal and thus everything else in the Marvel Universe. God Emperor Doom has no feats that matter at this level, Pre-retcon Beyonder turns him into a toilet. Both Beyonder (assuming this is him outside his personal realm) and the Presence, since both are like Low 1-B, this could go either way. He can't exist beyound the source wall which limits him to not a 11-D being but probably a 10-D. -Everyone full powers. Anti-Monitor's probably on the scale of pre-retcon Molecule Man, a foe that Beyonder was able to beat. The omnipotent Beyonder is on a destructive rampage and has decided to destroy the entire Marvel omniverse. The only other non-Omnipotent characters in Marvel who might even rival a bloodlusted pre-Retcon Beyonder for one are the Infinite Infinites and Divine Creator VIA narrative wanking. As a scientist, Doctor Manhattan is all about doing things step by step. Pre-Retcon Beyonder, represented by Amendment50 Elder God Demonbane, represented by God_Vulcan PLEASE VOTE FOR WHOEVER YOU THINK DEBATED THE BEST, NOT WHICH CHARACTER. Numidium 2. Elaine Belloc would win under both scenarios, 2nd would be pointless. Due to sun wukong's absolute transcendence to buddhahood. Pre retcon MM scared the cosmics of the 80s even as groups, they had to just let him pass by out of fear, even beg him to fight Beyonder due to how scared shitless they were of both. . Which effectively means that they give Beyonder their sunday. Both are Omnipotent Supreme Beings but PRB was God to something larger than. But Lucifer should win this quite handily. Pre Retcon Beyonder. PR Beyonder had full backing by Marvel Boss, Jim Shooter to do anything he wanted. Some overkill ones would be The Brothers Death (apart from maybe small death), Scarlet King, etc. Pre Retcon Beyonder has been nearly killed before by lesser being and has been outsmarted more than once by people so far below his power level. Rick Sanchez Vs Pre-Retcon Beyonder, The One Above All, The Presence, Azathoth, Doctor Manhattan, The Scarlet King, Sun Wukong, and Homelander Battle Round 1: No prep Round 2: Rick knows about everyone and gets a month of prep. Second, Beyonder would stop Mxy from going out of the comic, trapping him in the Beyond-Realm (himself). Lucifer is way above pre Retcon BeyonderPRE RETCON BEYONDER goes to the DRAGON BALL universe and fights all Dragonball characters at the same time - this includes Zeno Sama, The Angels, Whis, All Gods of Destruction, Broly, Goku, Vegeta, etc. It's more like the One Above All kind of power. It's similar to how using the Super Exciting guides for SSJ Multipliers should not take away from Goku's feats in 1990 when his SSJ form alone in the Namek Saga was far above a Galaxy busting Freiza. Still Pre-Retcon Beyonder. TOAA probably isn't more powerful than suggsverse characters. The Beyonder has always been a child-like being, which makes him very dangerous. He's about cause and effect and. Learn the difference between the original, toned-down, and evolved versions of the Beyonder, a cosmic entity that can create and destroy reality, in Marvel Comics. ". He was even above and beyond the writing staff . The Beyonder “realizes” something. #13 AgentofChaos1. The Beyonder and the Molecule Man, also known as Owen Reece, have a complex and tumultuous relationship. They start 20 feet away from each other. R1: Pre-Retcon Beyonder Takes Low-Mid Difficulty. Featherine is way above than Beyonder. Hence why people differentiate the beyonder as. If not, Team 2 with some trouble, since PRB<HOTU. You can also upload and share your favorite Beyonder wallpapers. 17 Ginriu. " Yep this is a pretty easy win for Frank 14 years ago. He has way better feats, unless you can provide me a showing for Reinhard superior to being beyond comprehension of Pre-Retcon MM, as well as being above all of Marvel. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Who is pre Retcon beyonder? Summary. FollowRound 5: Pre-Retcon Molecule Man vs God Emperor Doom Round 6:Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs God Emperor Doom Bonus Round: Protege vs God Emperor Doom This thread is archived New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A GregLeagueGamingAlt •.